Difference between revisions of "Talk:Monsters"

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Monster encyclopaedia layout

Yes - I'm well aware even before anyone says anything - this page is going to become stupidly long. Far too long to be of any particular use. So what suggestions could we have in chunking this info into shorter pieces? I can easily turn each one into their own pages, but the amount of information for each monster... just doesn't seem worth it. Another choice might be to split it into sections: say, A to I, J to R, S to Z, though that would also depend on the number of monsters in each section. --Sudzzuds (talk) 14:00, 24 May 2015 (MDT)

I am insane, I am insane... I have lost my brains many many hours ago... Good thing was that I got further than I ever did? Yay me? --Sudzzuds (talk) 17:03, 24 May 2015 (MDT)

After playing with Kam Mel for a bit, I've realized that monsters have a HP range (honestly, I should have realized this much earlier on without the need of Kam Mel). This makes collecting info about HP much more of a killing task than using Kam Mel. For now, I'm deleting the HP from the encyclopaedia (excluding BOSS monsters - I will still attempt to establish an approximate if possible). --Sudzzuds (talk) 09:30, 28 May 2015 (MDT)

Weapon Classifications

I'm now realizing that I should, at this point, should note what weapons classify as. This is ALSO a work in progress, edits will be done as more info is discovered. Lists are vaguely listed in order of damage dealt.

Arrows: Bow, Magic Bow, Ancient Bow
Axes: Battle Axe, War Axe, Victory Axe
Maces: Mace, Morning Star, Titan Mace
Spears: Spear, Trident, Silver Spear
Swords: Dagger(?), Justice Sword/Sword, Claymore, Katana, Slash Wand(?)
Staffs: Quarter Staff, Wizard Staff, Ruby Staff

Fire: Liquid Fire(?), Flame Wand(?), Firebrand (tested with Trent: --Sudzzuds (talk) 17:07, 5 June 2015 (MDT)), Pyr spells (Spak, Won, Ran?, Wos?)
Ice: Liquid Ice(?), Frost Wand, Jan spells (Spak, Ram Spak, Wos)
Lightning: Shock Wand(?), Lightning Wand(?), Krak spells (Won, Bom)
Magic:(?) Bolt Wand, Vanish Wand, Grav Bom

Acid: Acid (shots), Acid Gel (tested --Sudzzuds (talk) 16:56, 14 June 2015 (MDT))
Holy: Holy Water

Anything with a (?) needs to be confirmed - most of it is very straightforward, but I did surprise myself with Firebrand. There's also the question of whether the physical weapons can be combined to bigger groupings: Thrust - Arrows + Spears, Bash - Maces + Staffs, Slash - Swords + Axes.

Great. Just great. The one time I get the chance to test Frost Wand and think I can get more Ice entries... I find out that the Frost Wand does NOT follow the same weapon trait as Liquid Ice. The question is which one is 'wrong'. Slash - my feelings-cough-anger-cough- for you has just transcended all boundaries. --Sudzzuds (talk) 21:17, 22 June 2015 (MDT).

Got lucky with getting a Jan Spak early on. Tested on Ophidian, who was weak to Liquid Ice, but not Frost Wand. Ophidian showed weakness to Jan Spak. Thus proving that Frost Wand is 'wrong'. Now to figure out other wands - Flame Wand is going to be hard since a lot of monsters are weak to fire. Lighting Wand is going to be worse, since the only way to test it is with Krak spells. Bleep, just about the entire magical element section is going to be a headache.